Talk: Blacks

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GRRM capitalizes "Blacks" within the name of Gyldayn's work, as it is the title of a published work, but references to the group within the novella use lower case ('Ser Criston Cole was given the task of taking into custody such "blacks" who remained at court'; 'it became the custom to refer to "greens" and "blacks" when talking of the queen's party and the party of the princess, respectively. In the tourney itself, the blacks had much the better of it...'). Nittanian 18:50, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


Are the sigils used by Jacaerys, Lucerys and Joffrey Velaryon ever described anywhere? They are given the Velaryon sigil, but as Rhaenyra's heirs, shouldn't Rhaenyra's sigil be more appropriate for them? Likewise, her two younger children, Aegon and Viserys, are given the regular Targaryen sigil. What sigil would be more appropriate for them? Their mother's sigil, or the sigil they would use in the future? --Rhaenys Targaryen (talk) 19:22, 10 August 2016 (UTC)