Talk: House Kettleblack

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This is one of a couple of blazons I have come across that doesn't make sense heraldically. You can't have "a border of orles". It's like saying "a border of borders". An orle is a border that is voided away from the edge of the arms so colour needs to be specified. Alternatively you can have something like "an orle of marltlets", but again colour needs to be specified. --Crackclaw 06:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

"Noble" House

Just my two coppers here, but I somehow doubt "House" Kettleblack is a noble house at all. They were just sellswords who came out of nowhere, one with a questionable claim even to a knighthood. There is no evidence whatsoever that they are a noble house. At best they are a Knightly house with the recent knighting of the two younger brothers. I understand that the Citadel site, one I participate in as well, is the source for much of this information, but also being a fan site it is not an authoritative source on the matter.Benethon Stark 03:48, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree about the 'noble house' part. Also the citadel only states that the known members of this house to make appearacne are hedge knight and I only seen Kettleblack refereed as landed knights. --Mor 13:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


What region should this house be considered a part of? I personally would lean towards the Vale, but I suppose the Crownlands could also work. --Ser_Aeron_Connel 06:34, 18 June 2012 (UTC)