Category talk:Coat of arms images

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I understand that coats of arms are painted by different authors, but shouldn't they follow some simple guidelines regarding format? For example, every Coat of Arms should be without the scroll with the house Motto. There are many mottos that are not known, so I guess that it is jsut fair not to include them in the coat of arms images.--Octavio Malibaires 17:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Standardization and mottoes have been discussed on the forum in the past, most recently in this thread: Questions About Heraldry.

I myself don't care for the mottoes, not just because many of them are semi-canon and thus potentially subject to change if and when they officially appear, and it gives an inconsistent look to the wiki to have a mix, but also because their placement on the shields is rather obtrusive (and occasionally misspelt, as in the case of File:House Lonmouth.PNG). IMHO, it interferes with the design of the arms, looks unaesthetic when the shield is shrunken for the character infoboxes, and placing the scroll directly across the base of the shield instead of under it is not the style used in real-life heraldry either, which it looks like it's supposed to mimic a portion of a full achievement of arms.

But it's really up to the contributors of the images to decide on which style they want to use and if people supplying the arms really feel that they go better with the mottoes across them, they're the people spending time on it.

That said, I think it would be useful to have motto-free alternative versions for the mini-shields that go into the infoboxes and House-listing templates and may make some for the easier blazons later after I fix all the ones where the chevrons point down. (I'm vaguely curious as to where people seem to have gotten the idea that they do, since this error occurs so often in the COA images here made by many different people that it feels non-coincidental in origin.)

And if people want to showcase the motto on an image, it would probably work better as a separate file beneath the shield, so that other-language wikis can use the original shield on their articles as well without having to put in an explanation for the motto on their articles. Alexander the Drake 16:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I completely agree! And sorry for not signing my message earlier. Is there a criterium on which the selection of the version of the CoA is based? Or is it simply "the last one uploaded" / "the one I like the most"?--Octavio Malibaires 17:13, 31 August 2013 (UTC)