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{{Quote|The best pie you have ever tasted, my lords. Wash it down with [[wine|Arbor gold]] and savor every bite. I know I shall.{{Ref|aDwD|37}}}} 
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[[File:Borja Pindado wymanmanderly.jpg|thumb|Lord [[Wyman Manderly]] and a pie by Borja Pindado © Fantasy Flight Games]]
- Wyman Manderly during the wedding of "[[Jeyne Poole|Arya Stark]]"
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The '''Frey Pies Theory''' suggests that [[Wyman Manderly]] orders the killing of three Freys ([[Rhaegar Frey|Rhaegar]], [[Symond Frey|Symond]], and [[Jared Frey|Jared]]) who disappeared on the way from [[White Harbor]] to [[Barrowton]], and Lord Manderly then has them baked them into the three huge meat pies he brings for [[Ramsay Snow|Ramsay Bolton's]] wedding at [[Winterfell]].
  
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==Supporting Evidence==
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* Lord [[Wyman Manderly]] suggests to [[Davos Seaworth]] he means to have all three Freys murdered and intimates about giving guest gifts to the Freys in line with their house's breach of [[guest right]] at the [[Red Wedding]], where his son [[Wendel Manderly|Wendel]] was slain.{{ref|ADWD|29}}
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* [[Walder Frey (son of Jammos)|Big Walder Frey]] suspects Wyman had his cousins killed while on the road from [[White Harbor]] to [[Barrowton]]. Wyman insists the Freys travelled ahead of his column out of impatience over Wyman's slow pace, and he is distraught at their disappearance.{{ref|ADWD|32}}
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* Lord Wyman presents three huge pork pies at the wedding in [[Winterfell]], one for each of the missing Freys. Wyman serves portions to Roose, [[Walda Frey|Walda Bolton]], [[Hosteen Frey]], and [[Aenys Frey]], to ensure they would eat it. He serves them with great (drunken) exuberance. Wyman himself eats two portions from each pie.{{Ref|aDwD|37}}
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* At the wedding feast, Lord Wyman has the bard [[Mance Rayder|Abel]] sing about the [[Rat Cook]] for them,{{ref|ADWD|37}} a song about an evil cook who kills a prince and bakes him into a pie he then serves to an [[Andal]] king. Shortly after [[Bran Stark]] dreamed [[Robb Stark]]'s death, he reflected on the legend of the Rat Cook: he was transformed into a giant white rat by the gods, not because of his deeds, but specifically because he dishonored [[guest right]].{{ref|ASOS|56}}
  
The Frey Pies Theory is that [[Wyman Manderly]] killed the three Freys ([[Rhaegar Frey|Rhaegar]], [[Symond Frey|Symond]], and [[Jared Frey|Jared]]) who disappeared on the way from [[White Harbor]] to [[Winterfell]] and baked them into the three huge meat pies he brought for Ramsay Bolton's wedding at Winterfell.
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==Quotes==
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{{quote|'''Theon''': Did you find your cousins, my lord?<br>
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'''Walder''': No. I never thought we would. They're dead. Lord [[Wyman Manderly|Wyman]] had them killed. That's what I would have done if I was him.{{ref|ADWD|32}}|[[Theon Greyjoy]] and [[Walder Frey (son of Jammos)|Big Walder Frey]]}}
  
==Supporting Evidence==
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{{Quote|The best pie you have ever tasted, my lords. Wash it down with [[wine|Arbor gold]] and savor every bite. I know I shall.{{Ref|aDwD|37}}|[[Wyman Manderly]] during the wedding feast of "[[Jeyne Poole|Arya Stark]]" and [[Ramsay Snow|Ramsay Bolton]]}}
* Lord Wyman suggests to [[Davos Seaworth]] he means to have all three Freys murdered and intimates about giving a guest gift to the Freys in line with their house's breach of [[guest right]] at the [[Red Wedding]].
 
* Roose Bolton suspects Lord Wyman had the Freys killed while on the road from White Harbor to Winterfell. Lord Wyman insists the Freys travelled ahead of his column out of impatience over Wyman's slow pace. While not implausible, this is a very flimsy story.
 
* Lord Wyman presents 3 huge pies at the wedding, one for each of the missing Freys.
 
* When the pies are served at the wedding, Lord Wyman cuts portions personally for the Boltons and Freys, to ensure they would eat it. He serves them with great (drunken) exuberance. {{Ref|aDwD|37}}
 
* At the wedding, Lord Wyman has [[Mance Rayder|Abel]] the Bard sing the [[Rat Cook]] for them, a song about an evil cook who kills a prince and bakes him into a pie he then serves to a king. Shortly after Bran dreamed Robb's death, he reflected on the legend of the Rat Cook: he was transformed into a giant white rat by the gods, not because of his deeds, but specifically because he dishonoured [[guest right]].
 
  
 
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Latest revision as of 19:49, 17 January 2020

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Lord Wyman Manderly and a pie by Borja Pindado © Fantasy Flight Games

The Frey Pies Theory suggests that Wyman Manderly orders the killing of three Freys (Rhaegar, Symond, and Jared) who disappeared on the way from White Harbor to Barrowton, and Lord Manderly then has them baked them into the three huge meat pies he brings for Ramsay Bolton's wedding at Winterfell.

Supporting Evidence

  • Lord Wyman Manderly suggests to Davos Seaworth he means to have all three Freys murdered and intimates about giving guest gifts to the Freys in line with their house's breach of guest right at the Red Wedding, where his son Wendel was slain.[1]
  • Big Walder Frey suspects Wyman had his cousins killed while on the road from White Harbor to Barrowton. Wyman insists the Freys travelled ahead of his column out of impatience over Wyman's slow pace, and he is distraught at their disappearance.[2]
  • Lord Wyman presents three huge pork pies at the wedding in Winterfell, one for each of the missing Freys. Wyman serves portions to Roose, Walda Bolton, Hosteen Frey, and Aenys Frey, to ensure they would eat it. He serves them with great (drunken) exuberance. Wyman himself eats two portions from each pie.[3]
  • At the wedding feast, Lord Wyman has the bard Abel sing about the Rat Cook for them,[3] a song about an evil cook who kills a prince and bakes him into a pie he then serves to an Andal king. Shortly after Bran Stark dreamed Robb Stark's death, he reflected on the legend of the Rat Cook: he was transformed into a giant white rat by the gods, not because of his deeds, but specifically because he dishonored guest right.[4]

Quotes

Theon: Did you find your cousins, my lord?
Walder: No. I never thought we would. They're dead. Lord Wyman had them killed. That's what I would have done if I was him.[2]

The best pie you have ever tasted, my lords. Wash it down with Arbor gold and savor every bite. I know I shall.[3]

Wyman Manderly during the wedding feast of "Arya Stark" and Ramsay Bolton

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