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==Robert Strong is Gregor Clegane==
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It was believed by [[Kevan Lannister]] and members of the [[Small Council]] that Ser [[Robert Strong]] is the reanimated corpse of Ser [[Gregor Clegane]], a kind of Frankenstein's Monster.  The circumstances of Ser Gregor's death, Ser Robert's introduction by [[Qyburn]] and Ser Robert's physical characteristics strongly suggest this is true.
It is widely believed among readers (and according to [[Kevan Lannister]], among members of the [[Small Council]] as well) that Ser Robert Strong is in fact the reanimated corpse of Ser [[Gregor Clegane]], although he falls just short of saying so.
 
  
Indeed, the circumstances and moment of his appearance and his physical build have left both characters and readers with a strong suspicion that Ser Robert Strong is in fact a reanimated corpse of Ser Gregor Clegane.
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==Supporting Evidence==
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* Qyburn lost his Maester's chain for conducting unethical experiments on humans.
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* It is mentioned at [[Harrenhal]] by [[Gendry]] that Qyburn is rumored to have knowledge of black magic and necromancy. {{Ref|aCoK|64}}
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* It is never said what happens to Gregor's body, except that his head is sent to [[Doran Martell]].
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* Qyburn says he is making an "undefeatable champion" for Cersei Lannister.  Though none of his work is shown or described in detail, it's known he commissions a very large suit of armor for an unknown purpose.
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* [[Qyburn]] convinces Cersei to allow him to experiment on the dying Ser Gregor Clegane, among other prisoners of the Red Keep.
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* Mace Tyrell and Randyll Tarly have doubts about Ser Robert Strong's identity.  Meryn Trant claims to never see him eat or drink and Boros Blount says he's never seen him use a privy.{{ref|aDwD|Epilogue|page 949 (Hardcover edition)}}
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* Strong is said to never speak. [[Qyburn]] claims that Ser Robert made a vow of silence, which sounds like a cover story.{{ref|aDwD|65|page 859 (Hardcover edition)}}
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* While the head of Ser Gregor is supposed to have been sent to Dorne,{{Ref|aDwD|38}} and [[Doran Martell]] remarks that the skull he receives is certainly large enough to have belonged to Ser Gregor, Ser Robert apparently never removes his helm, so there is no conclusive proof that he actually has a head.{{ref|aDwD|Epilogue|page 949 (Hardcover edition)}}
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* Ser Gregor [[Trial by combat|championed]] for Cersei Lannister before Ser Robert.{{ref|aDwD|65|page 859 (Hardcover edition)}}  She may well trust in Ser Robert Strong simply because he is physically impressive, but it is remarkable that she stakes her life on someone that she barely knows.
  
==Evidence==
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==Bran's Greendream==
As of the last page of [[A Dance with Dragons]], we have seen and learned very little of Robert Strong.  But what little we know implies that he is not really human, and in fact his body does not have a normal physiology.  He never eats, drinks, or even uses a privy, at least not as far as other people know.<ref>[[A Dance with Dragons]], [[Epilogue (A Dance with Dragons)|Epilogue]], page 949 (Hardcover edition)</ref>  Nor does he speak.  [[Qyburn]] is the only one who claims to have any knowledge of him before he was incased in his huge armor, and his claim that Ser Robert made what is effectively a vow of perpetual silence is very suspicious.<ref>[[A Dance with Dragons]], [[A Dance with Dragons-Chapter 65|Chapter 65 - Cersei VIII]], page 859 (Hardcover edition)</ref>
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While [[Bran Stark|Bran]] is in a coma from his fall in A Game of Thrones, he has a dream while flying with the [[three-eyed crow]]:
  
Of course, another very strong evidence is the shared physical characteristics. There are precious few eight feet tall people in [[Westeros]], be it living, dead or undead. And while the head of Ser Gregor is supposed to have been sent to Dorne,{{Ref|aDwD|38}} Ser Robert apparently never shows his face beneath his greathelm, so there is no conclusive proof that he actually has a head.<ref>[[A Dance with Dragons]], [[Epilogue (A Dance with Dragons)|Epilogue]], page 949 (Hardcover edition)</ref>
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{{Quote|''"There were shadows all around them. One Shadow was dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound. Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful. Over them loomed a Giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood."''{{ref|aGoT|17}} }}
  
Circunstantially, it may also be noted that Cersei has on occasion chosen both Ser Gregor and Ser Robert<ref>[[A Dance with Dragons]], [[A Dance with Dragons-Chapter 65|Chapter 65 - Cersei VIII]], page 859 (Hardcover edition)</ref> as her champions in [[Trial by combat|Trial by combat]]. It may well be simply because both are physically impressive warriors, but it is remarkable that she trusts her future to someone that she has barely met and has no history with.
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'''Evidence this relates to Robert Strong'''
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* The first shadow is likely [[Sandor Clegane]] as he wears a hound-shaped helm.
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* The second shadow is likely Prince [[Oberyn Martell]] as he wears armor of bronze discs.  Also the sun is the sigil of [[House Martell]].{{Ref|aSoS|70}}
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** The second shadow could also be Ser [[Jaime Lannister]] or [[Tywin Lannister]] since both wear golden armor.
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* The Stone giant is likely Ser Gregor Clegane as he is referred to as "The Mountain" (which are of stone) and his helm is adorned with a stone fist.{{Ref|aSoS|70}}
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* The poison Prince Oberyn uses on Ser Gregor is noted by [[Pycelle]] and [[Qyburn]] to have turned Gregor's blood black.{{Ref|aSoS|72}} {{ref|aFfC|7}}
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* The stone giant is headless and Ser Robert Strong is possibly headless as well.
  
==References and Notes==
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==References==
 
{{References}}
 
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==See also==
 
*[[Gregor Clegane/Theories]]
 
  
 
[[Category:Theories]]
 
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[[es:Robert Strong-Teorías]]

Revision as of 21:22, 2 March 2018

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It was believed by Kevan Lannister and members of the Small Council that Ser Robert Strong is the reanimated corpse of Ser Gregor Clegane, a kind of Frankenstein's Monster. The circumstances of Ser Gregor's death, Ser Robert's introduction by Qyburn and Ser Robert's physical characteristics strongly suggest this is true.

Supporting Evidence

  • Qyburn lost his Maester's chain for conducting unethical experiments on humans.
  • It is mentioned at Harrenhal by Gendry that Qyburn is rumored to have knowledge of black magic and necromancy. [1]
  • It is never said what happens to Gregor's body, except that his head is sent to Doran Martell.
  • Qyburn says he is making an "undefeatable champion" for Cersei Lannister. Though none of his work is shown or described in detail, it's known he commissions a very large suit of armor for an unknown purpose.
  • Qyburn convinces Cersei to allow him to experiment on the dying Ser Gregor Clegane, among other prisoners of the Red Keep.
  • Mace Tyrell and Randyll Tarly have doubts about Ser Robert Strong's identity. Meryn Trant claims to never see him eat or drink and Boros Blount says he's never seen him use a privy.[2]
  • Strong is said to never speak. Qyburn claims that Ser Robert made a vow of silence, which sounds like a cover story.[3]
  • While the head of Ser Gregor is supposed to have been sent to Dorne,[4] and Doran Martell remarks that the skull he receives is certainly large enough to have belonged to Ser Gregor, Ser Robert apparently never removes his helm, so there is no conclusive proof that he actually has a head.[2]
  • Ser Gregor championed for Cersei Lannister before Ser Robert.[3] She may well trust in Ser Robert Strong simply because he is physically impressive, but it is remarkable that she stakes her life on someone that she barely knows.

Bran's Greendream

While Bran is in a coma from his fall in A Game of Thrones, he has a dream while flying with the three-eyed crow:

"There were shadows all around them. One Shadow was dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound. Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful. Over them loomed a Giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood."[5]

Evidence this relates to Robert Strong

  • The first shadow is likely Sandor Clegane as he wears a hound-shaped helm.
  • The second shadow is likely Prince Oberyn Martell as he wears armor of bronze discs. Also the sun is the sigil of House Martell.[6]
  • The Stone giant is likely Ser Gregor Clegane as he is referred to as "The Mountain" (which are of stone) and his helm is adorned with a stone fist.[6]
  • The poison Prince Oberyn uses on Ser Gregor is noted by Pycelle and Qyburn to have turned Gregor's blood black.[7] [8]
  • The stone giant is headless and Ser Robert Strong is possibly headless as well.

References

  1. A Clash of Kings, Chapter 64, Arya X.
  2. 2.0 2.1 A Dance with Dragons, Epilogue, page 949 (Hardcover edition).
  3. 3.0 3.1 A Dance with Dragons, Chapter 65, Cersei II, page 859 (Hardcover edition).
  4. A Dance with Dragons, Chapter 38, The Watcher.
  5. A Game of Thrones, Chapter 17, Bran III.
  6. 6.0 6.1 A Storm of Swords, Chapter 70, Tyrion X.
  7. A Storm of Swords, Chapter 72, Jaime IX.
  8. A Feast for Crows, Chapter 7, Cersei II.