Robert Arryn/Theories

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Robert Arryn has been theorized to actually be the son of Lord Petyr Baelish.

Supporting evidence

  • Jon Arryn was unable to have any children with his first two wives, Jeyne Royce and Rowena Arryn,[1] which seems to indicate that he is infertile, and thus could not have fathered Robert.
  • As a younger man, Jon Arryn resembled Harrold Hardyng, who has pale blue eyes and sandy blond hair,[2] and Lysa has beautiful auburn hair. Robert, however, has brown hair, and is small and painfully thin for his age,[3] which better matches the appearance of a younger Petyr Baelish.[4]
  • Jon Arryn gave Petyr a minor sinecure in customs in King's Landing in 289 AC.[5] According to a semi-canon source, Lysa and Petyr began a secret affair,[6] while Robert was born in 292 AC.
  • This would mean that both the King and the Hand of the King are being cuckolded, and that none of their sons are actually from their seed.[7]

Counter-evidence

  • Lysa's father, Hoster Tully, was brown-haired.[8]
  • Lysa tells Petyr she would have given him a son, who was "murdered [...] with moon tea" by her father.[9] Once they married, she wanted to replace the dead child with another.[10] If she knew Robert were Petyr's child from their affair, she would have said as much.
  • Lysa became pregnant multiple times by Jon, all ending in miscarriages or stillbirths, at least three boys and two girls.[3][10] Robert is their only surviving son, and it is suggested his weak condition and illness is related to the same issues as Lysa's incomplete pregnancies.[3] Besides the issue of Jon's "weak seed",[10] it is possible that the strong dose of moon tea forced on Lysa to abort her child with Petyr, which nearly killed her,[11] also damaged her reproductive system.
  • Petyr Baelish is dosing Robert with sweetsleep,[12] which is a deadly poison in large doses,[13] and even in small doses appears to build up to deadly levels.[14] He is also quite casually certain that Robert will die young.[14] If he had any cause to believe Robert were actually his son, it is unlikely that he would act or feel this way. (Counter-counter evidence: Petyr was a casual kinslayer of his wife Lysa;[9] kinslaying Robert may also be nothing to him.)
  • According to George R. R. Martin, nobody believes that Jon Arryn is not Robert's father.[15]

Quotes

[Was Jon Arryn the father of Robert Arryn?]
So far as anyone knows. Without blood tests or DNA, establishing paternity was a lot more hit and miss.[15]


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