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Link to pixel art arms as discussed Xert 19:20, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Category:Characters from the TV show only

I think it is a good idea to create a Category Characters from the TV show only. However be sure that term TV is capitalized or use television.

I had to move this to the top because the wiki automatically adds new categories at the end. --Ser Ash the Red 21:16, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


I looked at some other wikis to come up with more ideas but I think it has about everything we need. The only things that I could think of are:

  • total area in miles / kilometers? For most settlement we will probably never be able to specify it but you never know. Maybe the coming World of Ice and Fire will have some info.
  • type of government? The Free cities seem to be oligarchies while the cities in Westeros are the domain of nobles (=feudal).

Also a question: on wikipedia often a map of the region and one of the land is shown. What do you think; should we do the same? If so I think that if may be more convenient to leave this out of the settlement template as the map use a template of their own.Scafloc 18:42, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Greyjoy Rebellion picture

Great job! Scafloc 11:29, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

House Category

That sounds like a very good idea, Mor! I am not very familiar with wiki templates, so I'll trust your judgement. Nittanian 12:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


I used (part of) the list that Ghost of Winterfell sent. I did some random checks and removed duplicates but nothing more. The problem with the blanked pages (except for the interlink) occurs when the extration of the exisitng data did not work. There is no straightforward method to verify this. Well at least it is easy traceable. I would have reverted those myself but I was out for a few hours.

Do you know if ours api's are working? I the impression that they aren't. I was thinking of using them to create a list with articles that do not have an interlink and holding that list against lists form the French and Chinese wiki with articles that do have an interlink. Thus we would get a new list with interlinks that can be created. Cheers,Scafloc 15:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I noticed that the script replaces the br tag with two returns. On a few page someone replaced a few a br tags (of mine) with double return. The result was the same so I did not bother. Nor do I think we should in this case.Scafloc
Btw I found the api. I still have to explore all posibilities but if it has an option to add data directly to the interlink table I will find it!
I think I have done it!!! With the appendtext parameter you can add text to end of the article. The problem was that you cannot call the api-for-edits through an url and you have send a token of your session. The first is completely solved, the second works for now. There may be cases when it does not get the complete token but the only effect of that is that the edit will not be done. So it will not clear the page or something. If you are interested I can give you the complete code & explanation but it is mostly technical and with workarounds for problem I could not solve directly. Scafloc 12:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


You can list the miniCOAs as you wish. I chose them these because they were the ones used were I found on the french wiki's heraldry page. I was unable to quickly locate any larger versions of these COA. --Ser Ash the Red 22:40, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

FA Pages

My Apologies, saw you restored. I shouldn't of assumed that they went with the one tagged for deletion.   Hooper   raven    contribs    email   14:17, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

The one marked fr delineation was a typo, this why I never delete anything that is not mine directly but put it as delete request, so others may review it. But dont worry about it, I was actually thinking that delete them was the right thing todo, since I hate when they clutter my the special reports... the only reason I created them, with everything in but the content was to make the job of editing easier, to help anyone who is not familiar with structure be able to contribute as well.
Btw, nice job with COA, CTRL click/paste/tab and cleaning up effort. cheers Mor

References Format

I think that this was being discussed a little on the forum but I don't feel like searching for the right thread. I'm not sure I think your new in text citation format is better than the old way. For one I have gotten used to typing the old one out from habit, and for two the new way looks like a jumble of letters that mean nothing to me. I can't argue against you using it when making new references, but it just makes everything confusing if you start going back and altering the citations already in the page, at least until we can all conclusively agree on a format. 14:41, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I see the idea you are going for, but someone (I don't remember who) decided to make the standard for references book name, chapter name for ADWD and future references. This was in an effort to eliminate the use of chapter numbers, as the chapters are not numbered in the books, and some people use the prologue as chapter one and others count the prologue as chapter zero. I support the reasoning behind this decision. I haven't noticed any ADWD references that you've changed, but what did you have in mind for that? I think the idea was also to go back and change AGOT - AFFC to eliminate the use of the chapter numbers. It just seems like a lot of work to go through and shorten the references now when the ultimate goal is to change them away from using the chapter numbers because they will again have to be altered when the first four books' chapter summaries are changed away from the number system. Maybe we should focus on fixing the system first, and then when past references are changed we could kill two birds with one stone and shorten the references as well as eliminate the chapter numbering system at the same time? What do you think? kissed by fire 18:02, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Personally, I dont see any benefit in eliminating the use of chapter numbers, IMO its easier to work with them, but that doesnt mean that we cant do both. Here is the thread on the topic, I havent changed any of the summaries pages naming ADWD or otherwise, if we decide that ADWD like naming convention is preferable for summaries pages or otherise it's exactly the something to me(either redirect to one or to another, both will have to be kept for compatibility sake). as for Template:Ref Template, the best thing about it that we are not limited, no matter what we decide and how many changes we make in the process, it's always one edit away from working, no need to concern ourself with thousands of pages that need editing. Mor 19:35, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Collapsible tables

Yes it does not look very nice (especially with image present). But it is a begin. I think your version without border and background is the best. But I think it looks better without including the book title I think. Maybe we should ask some of the others. Scafloc 09:50, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Category:Houses without COA

Hi Mordin999, is category already complete? If not there may be a other way to get a list of houses without COA. Usually the only picture on House article is the COA. So we could make a custom made select that selects from the tables that the wiki software uses all entries (articles) that being House and for which there is no entry in the table that stores the links between article and image. It would require to get some knowledge about the tables and for Ran to store the query so it can be called by users. But in the end I think it is less time intensive then going through all house articles one by one. I have some documentation about the tables at home but at this moment I am actually on holiday so it will have to wait a few weeks. Cheers,Scafloc 08:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

So the category is made with the help of the NobleHouse template. Pretty cool! I thought that you were planning on going through all the Noble Houses and adding them one by one. That is why I suggested the query as an alternative solution. But this (using the template) is way better; nice work. Scafloc 09:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Help Pages

Go ahead with adding more tips to help pages I only was try to get rid of orphan links in the help pages and update how MediaWiki handles images.

Ser Ash the Red Ser Ash the Red 09:18, 20 August 2011 (CDT)

Copying from Wikipedia

Mordin999, we are allowed to use the material from wikipedia provided that we acknowledge the use and link to the original (=wikipedia) page. To do that I made Template:EnWP. The only parameter that it needs is the name of the wikipedia article for instance "Template:Infobox". For more information see AWOIAF:Copying_from_Wikipedia and this discussion. Scafloc 18:13, 18 August 2011 (CDT)

sure, if you are referring to my "shameless copy pasting" of the infobox, it's and other are still WIP and will be stamped with the documentation and licencing information once i am done with code, otherwise you'll have to point me in the right direction. cheers Mor 18:57, 18 August 2011 (CDT)


Hello, Mordin999, and Welcome to Song of Ice and Fire Wiki!

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King's Guard COA

I don't see a difference between the file on the wiki and the one of tinypic. So I think it has worked. I am not a big fan a gradient myself but for the King's Guard COA, and perhaps other COa's that have only one colour, it looks ok. Scafloc 18:16, 8 October 2011 (CDT)

If you see no difference, then it must be some kind of cache problem on my side, wired I tried CTRL+F5 several times... Anyway, about the COA, I only wanted to cut out the white space bellow and added the gradient as an after thought, it might work for other one colour COA as you said(nights watch?) but I think, I better leave the artistic direction to the experts ;) Mor 20:28, 8 October 2011 (CDT)

Chapter summaries

Thanks! I'll keep at it :). Monkeytypist 00:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Image uploads

Hi, Mordin. Yes, I did use the "upload a new version of this file" option. For the most part it has been working well, but I noticed that there is some sort of cache that, for lack of a better wording, takes a while to realize that the file has changed. The 50-pixel thumbnails are still a bit confused, with scarlet lower corners. But I expect that problem to solve itself spontaneously in a day or two. LuisDantas 11:25, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


I was tempted, to be sure. But it felt right to go all the way at once. Almost left some for later, but it edge ever so close to completion... :) LuisDantas 23:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I wonder if we have some bot expert in-house. It sure would be nice to have the redirects changed automatically. One of these days I will try to learn. LuisDantas 23:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I wondered that myself time and time again, in the meanwhile we seem to be the in-house expert bot's ;) --Mor 07:18, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the renames of the ADwD chapter articles, it was actually a conscious decision to use a different naming convention (a decision reached after getting some feedback from other editors), and the intention was rather to move the old chapter pages to follow the same convention. May I ask why you changed it?
And, since you ask above, while I wouldn't claim to be a bot expert I have some experience there. E.g., the chapter articles were created automatically based on a CSV file.
Anguy the Archer 16:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

It was part of the initiative you started with aDwD chapters, I have updated the infoboxes for the rest of the books, leaving the naming convention for last. personally I prefer the older convention, in my opinion the chapter numbers make it easier to navigate with, however a 'book, number, POV' kind of thing could have worked as well, which is why I left the naming for last, in the hope that we can get more feedback or consensus on how to proceed, unfortunately it's kind of hard to get any feedback around here and after a month+ of waiting with it, I went with the older convention and even then I started with a two renames and waited for a day, to see if anyone didnt get the message before.
To sum it's too bad you havent been around ;) however if you have experience with Bot's, please feel free to restart the discussion on the forum. btw we have added the Chapters and Chapters_Table_of_contents to allow easier access and navigation to the summaries, they could have an easy copy paste information for your CSV file. --Mor 19:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Chapter summaries

Did you read some of the articles to which the summaries are linked?
Slynt and Leigh Butler do a lot more then just giving a summary. They give a complete review of the chapter. Comparing it against other chapters and other books. Especially Slynt is very good point out the strong sides and weaknesses of the chapters. And what they are doing is something we cannot! We are a wiki. We cannot say a chapter is good or bad. That is not for a wiki to say. We can only say the one chapter was better received than an other and point out who is saying so! So that is the reason why I added the links. Also I think that a lot of people who come to the wiki will like this. So as we cannot give a review we can at least point them to websites who can.
I must say that I do not see a problem here.Scafloc 16:30, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

And for the link to the blog of Ice and Fire: again have you read it? You should it is hilarious (analyses). Definitely not fitting for a wiki but it is something you will like to point fans to.
For the link to the Tower of the Hand I see less benefits. Only that the people who read it will be interested. But again I do not see this as threat to our own work.Scafloc 16:35, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

I am only voicing a concern that I had after noticing the latest addition of the 'Tower of the Hand' summaries, indeed they have good summaries, I just hope it will not dissuade people from improving our own, as you know I consider our chapter summaries as very important(if my English was better I would have worked on them myself). --Mor 16:55, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Well if you think so that let's wait for now with new links to the Tower of the Hand. For the others I really would like to include new links when they appear. Like I said they are adding the analyses / reviews. As as we cannot do that I like to point to those sides. Scafloc 17:09, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

no problem, I just wanted to point our that the possibility that other people may want to add their summaries as well(I seen a handful of good ones for aDwD) and I really want to avoid huge list of Extra links with people warring about which one is better as I seen it happen on wikipidea. --Mor 17:19, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Annoying but...

Still worth the effort. Btw, beautiful work you've done I see. --Isablidine 23:53, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

was Dany enslaved?

I take your point; I had the same thoughts also have wondered about arranged marriages like Sansa’s etc. However the thing is is that the word “arranged” is not used for Dany, it’s “sold”. I am unsure of what GRRM intended, perhaps he leaves the reader to decide. I (personally) thought she was enslaved. I was thinking of a paragraph on Dany’s emancipation of the salves so I could mention the fact that she was sold and its influence on her there instead. I will take it out of where I have it since it may be controversial. --Melanie 22:06, 8 May 2012.

Index World Map

Hi guys,

My congratulations for the nice work you have done. Did you think about for a indexed map of the world, where you can type a name of a town or aria and it directs you to its location. Something like google maps for short.

Regards. -- KyrtoGyz 14:19, 8 June 2012.

Infobox chapter improvement

Hello, I was thinking that we can add to the chapter infobox the place where the chapter takes place. I tried to do it myself but i couldn't. Can you help me? Thank you! --Dieguez 19:40, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Work that needs doing

I've read through your user page and I have to agree because, while I'm new to this Wiki, I have large overall experience on Wikis and do believe this Wiki still needs a lot of work to reach propper quality and organization. I also wanted to lay my support for whenever you propose the implementation of the Good Articles system, considering that FAs are, for most people, too large and beyond their limited editing time (or knowledge) so it would be unfair if the said users couldn't get articles to status themselves (besides, most articles in this Wiki will never reach a FA required size, regardless of including all the information about said subject). Basically, I would like to start helping to a greater extent but I have no idea where to start so, I'm asking if you could please, mention a few subjects that required urgent work (templates, categories, main articles), anything. Thanks in advance, sir. Winterz 16:08, 15 March 2013 (UTC)