Loras Tyrell/Theories

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According to some theories, Loras Tyrell's severe injuries at the Siege of Dragonstone are not as they seem. It is possible that Dragonstone has never been conquered or that the conquest happened but the report about the Iron Throne's losses and Loras's injuries in the battle was exaggerated.

The potential reasons for these conspiracies are:

Theories

Dragonstone been conquered but Loras not dying

Evidence for

  • As far as the reader knows, the only evidence given as to Loras's injuries is what Aurane Waters tells Cersei Lannister, and as Aurane later quickly abandons Cersei, his loyalty to her is certainly questionable. Furthermore, some readers speculated that Aurane is Margaery Tyrell's secret lover, which would mean that the grand admiral's loyalty would be to the younger queen.
  • According to Aurane, during the battle Loras was first hit with a quarrel in the thigh, then one through the shoulder, then had his ribs broken by a mace, but kept fighting at the front of the assault until he was hit with boiling oil. This seems an excessive amount of injuries to sustain while continuing to fight in the vanguard of an intense assault, even for Loras.
  • According to Aurane, Loras's leadership during the siege resulted in the death of one thousand of the Iron Throne's soldiers. Stannis only left a token force on Dragonstone, which would seem less likely to inflict such large-scale casualties on the Iron Throne's forces. Whether they actually died or defected along with Loras, it would be a large blow to the forces of the Iron Throne and House Lannister.
  • When taking Dragonstone, Aurane says that Loras offered single combat to its commander, Rolland Storm, but Rolland declined. This would seem to be out of character for Rolland and his belief in the Warrior.
  • Mace Tyrell states that his son's men have found nothing of value on Dragonstone. Kevan Lannister is skeptical of their thoroughness, as he distrusts Dragonstone's Valyrian origin and because he thinks Loras is too injured to lead a proper search.

Dragonstone's conquest never happened

Evidence for

Evidence against

  • It would presumably be difficult to keep the non-capture of Dragonstone a secret for long, given how many ships pass through Blackwater Bay en route to King's Landing.
  • It is possible that neither Miranda Royce in A Feast for Crows nor Stannis's followers in A Dance with Dragons had heard the news of Dragonstone's fall, due to logistics and chronology reasons (for example, Riverrun and Dragonstone's conquests may be happened in the same time frame even though they are recounted in distant chapters).
  • If the siege of Dragonstone is a complete fabrication, it would require House Tyrell to conspire with Stannis Baratheon, who is known to dislike House Tyrell for their part in the siege of Storm's End. Additionally, Stannis's claim to the throne would not benefit Margaery's desire to be Queen, which is contingent on her marriage to Tommen Baratheon and his status as King.